Nyaa archive 1510514
[EdgyLesbians] Black Rock Shooter - Dawn Fall - 01 [09B9A4CF].mkv
Saved on 2022-07-13 23:40:02. This copy includes the description and comments available at capture.
Description
Translated by based anon @4chan
TLC'd by Blondie
Timing, styles and minor edits by Blet
Special thanks to ACipher
Edit: this is not MTL, it was manually translated by ear by a rookie translator. The og script had the same timing as the MTL that was uploaded here yesterday because they both used the same blank timed script as a base. Since no one ripped the closed captions, there were many misheard lines. Also, the audio is so charged with SFX, that makes this show particularly difficult to understand by ear.
Comments 65
ow the edge
sankyuu
Thanks, I don't care what quality the subs are. So far you are the only one to release this.I hope you continue the series. I'm sure the habitual trolls will show up to complain. They only exist to whine about everything and don't seem to care whether anyone else wants to watch, but has no options. Unless they think they could do a better job and actually will. And none of them ever will.
Delt...
well the first season of this anime was one of the worst anime i've ever watched so i don't think it's worth the time
Delt... F
Either way, thanks
Hey look at that based 4chan anon used MTL (translations are exactly like my release with a little finess) and corrected the mistranslations/grammar.
Now the shitposters can hush it.
MEME
So, exactly how edgy are we talking about here?
There IS a point that those who could do better (coufherkzcouf) but don't want for whatever reason should shut up and stop complaining. These "shit releases" wouldn't be needed if these people who can do better but don't want to provided their releases. These releases are born from desperation because people want SOMETHING. In contributing to the void when you've the ability to fill said void, you're almost as responsible as Disney for the shit MTLs people put out in a desperate attemtpt to fill the void, so hearing you complaining is stupid. Accept these releases as the consequences of your own lack of action
Complaining in nyaa comments won't stop subs you don't like. Purtting out better subs will (at least a fraction of the people watching this'd watch your release instead and that's better than everyone going to this because there's nothing)
What happens when nothing is better.
@ohbejuan, @Sinnx3, and @bassgs435 You want a dick to suck then get off the computer, go outside, touch grass, and bend yourself out of shape, and suck your own because everyone else has enough sense not to let your mouth touch their noodle. MTL doesn't get context and is wrong so often it's not worth fixing it...they'd have been better off not doing anything, and you lazy lot would have been better off watching something or waiting for a better translation instead of rationalizing subpar shit like MTL.
Ass fucks who like to complain about others efforts should do it themselves (if they even know how which 99% of the faggots out there don't).
Here's the thing with MTL's..
Are they trash? Yes, normally. (It's no secret that human translation is better than AI in any case, but that's not the argument here)
Are they for everyone? No, but it gives the people who want a translation (albeit a bad one and most likely doesn't make sense), a translation. CASE AND POINT.
Not everyone is a great prodigy and can learn things on a drop of a dime. Get over the elitist keyboard warrior mentality, it's beyond childish. But I guess even the most grown of men can somehow stoop to the levels of a toddler fighting over a toy.
Should people give up and just stop on something they've put dedication and effort into just because it doesn't conform to what YOU want? No.
People arguing that people should just "wait for a better translation" are doing nothing to contribute to the betterment of said subs. And have no valid footing for an argument.
Don't like them? Don't download them. That simple. Better yet ask Nyaa to make some worthwhile feature additions to the platform so you can filter those out from your feeds?
Exactly, the point that should be driven home to the shitposting complainers. Herkz of all people (contributor of largest MEMESUBS out there Commie) COULD change this but instead chooses to bring others down to make themselves feel better about doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
wtf I hate herkz now
The point is, despite complaining about the problem take a look at yourselves and ask: "Am I really doing something to contribute to making better content or am I just being part of the problem?"
If you can't stand up and offer to help them learn or do it correctly, are you really any better than them? Sure, you may have the knowledge but are you putting it to use? If you can't say yes directly, you're part of the problem. Fullstop.
From an direct message of an official translator:
Instead of broadening the decentralized community, by telling people to just do it yourself (without even offering to teach them or guide them) you're centralizing the community.
And even if they do it themselves, they get "X is trash" or "Y is better just wait I don't want to be part of this". Which creates a toxic environment. It's honestly no wonder why long running groups decided to exit stage left. They don't want to put up with the toxicity anymore as nobody is willing to change the environment with them.
OH NO! I said some woke thought words. Forgot that we don't do that here.
Yeah, if the base is MTL I'm not gonna trust this steaming pile of shit no matter if you TLC'd. Suck my dick. I'll wait for an actual TL; not like this show is worth seeing either way. lol
Thank you!
I ain't gonna lie, the subs are pretty bad. But at the very least, now anyone who wants to do a better sub doesn't have to worry about timing.
Is this good subs??
timing the easiest part of fansubbing by far so it really hasn't helped
also machine translation of japanese to english even in ideal conditions is dogshit (google especially), but when you add voice to text i'd be surprised if even 10% of the lines are correct
You fucks have this MTL shitstorm every goddamn season
Shit MTL. Time to wait for Disney+.
I can't understand why people prefer garbage to consume asap. It's not like the anime is running away and at some point they'll offer official subs (which might be better). I don't like latecasts as well, but it's still better than ruining it with a guesslation (talking about Google translated stuff).
These subs are basically edited MTL. I checked and there's still a metric shitton of mistranslations and clunky lines.
I long for a good piece of Swiss chocolate, I always loved candies a kid. But at the moment there are no chocolate bars in the house, only a hot steaming pile of shit, produced by my granny.
She tried to serve it to me, saying that really, it’s still as brown as the chocolate and tastes just like the restaurant’s mousse.
I told her that I wouldn’t even let my worst enemy eat that thing, but my brother, who also loves all sugary things, called me a retard for not learning how to produce Swiss chocolate and started to eat the shit right away with a spoon.
I asked him “are you insane? There are tons of other sugary products in the house, you could wait for our parents to buy us some once they get the chance to go to the supermarket. Just eat some lollipops or something healthier like veggies for once”.
He showed my that shiteating grin and started yelling at me:“FUCK YOU! I WANT TO EAT SHIT! IT’S STILL BETTER THAN EATING OTHER STUFF. I WANT IT NOW. And besides, are you a medic? How can you be so sure this is a shit? It doesn’t look like one to me.”
The next week I was enjoying myself by eating some delicious Lindt chocolate bar, whereas my retarded, Bubininman IRL cosplayer brother who ate shit, it’s in the hospital with hepatitis A.
Rejoice, brother! Every dog has its day.
Absolutely beautiful
There’s also a point that we don’t know if Disney will ever, ever offer a better alternative. What if they do duntitles nonsense like they did for Star Wars Visions? I ain’t waiting for “better” subs that are never coming
Again all you fucks who could sub it but refuse to are to blame for this and have 0 right to complain about the consequences of your own actions
"Create subtitles for us, the viewers, you filthy fansubbers." Piss off lmfao. Most fansubbers nowadays just wanna fansub shows they enjoy. If you want a specific show fansubbed, get good enough to fansub it yourself or somehow talk a group into subbing it, and don't go blaming them for not subbing stuff they don't care about. Get over yourself, buncha whiners.
The ones who need to get over themselves are the subbers whining, when this is a result of their lack of action.
I don’t blame them for not subbing. I blame them for daring to complain about this desperate stuff that only exists because none of these better subbers are working on the show. Deal with it and stop bitching
Yes, because thinking something is dumb and complaining about it means they need to sub shows they don't care enough for to sub. Christ, get over yourself lmfao.
garbage subs for a garbage show
i see no issue here
Yes? You get over yourself. This "dumb" stuff is LITERALLY a consequence of their lack of actions. There'd be no need to complain if better stuff was avaliable. And these whiny bitches could, but don't want to, contirbuting to the situation that leads to these subs.
It's like someone who buys Redo of Healer, but complains there's too much rape in anime. Either provide a better alternative or shut up and stop whining. Also, wether a show is garbage or great is highly subjective. Every show deserves decent subs
I have little else to add but this kind of attitude towards fansubbers is exactly why I rarely find myself caring what leechers have to say or what shows they want anymore, and why I refuse to take on any requests from them. Cry all you want about "fansubbers contributing to this", but the truth is that people like you are a big contributing factor yourselves. Frankly, sod off and enjoy your MTL'd subs. Push away fansubbers, and don't be surprised to not find them wanting to do stuff for you anymore.
You shouldn't generalize LightArrows. Not everyone is like him. You just read those comments and they stick around in your mind a bit more than the silent leecher who at best types "thank you" in the comment section.
They are just a vocal minority. In the end, you should just sub what you want because you like it, and leave these troglodytes with MTL trash, that's what they deserve anyway.
Sure, but they're constant, both on Nyaa and in private settings. If you don't do their bidding, you're no better than gum under their shoes in their eyes, and I do not want to fansub for these folk. If that's one of the most common reactions you can expect by fansubbing, nobody should be shocked that fansubbers don't want to deal with leechers in general.
Surely the few people who silently thank us will also understand if we decide to say "sod it" and only fansub what we enjoy instead regardless of outsider input, even if it isn't what they necessarily want to see fansubbed. Better than rocking the boat, or in this case the more apt expression would be "to bite the hand that feeds them" I suppose. It's quite simple, honestly. Don't treat fansubbers like shit, and maybe more will have stuck around and been willing to sub these shows that don't get prosubs. How 'bout that?
What a masterpiece...
of shit!
It seems to me the subbers don't like reality pointed out. Truth hurts but it's truth nonetheless
2)Simple cause and effect. Cause: No subs att all. Effect: Desperate MTL attempts. Again if this is false, explain
Refusing to sub the show is valid. Don't be surprised then, that people get desperate and do dumb shit and don't complain when this is a consequence of your lack of actions,. As a subber you people are in a priviledged position where you could fix the situatiom but stick to complaining. That privilege you have takes away your rights for valid complaints+
Again, it's like someone buying Redo of Healer and then going "why is there so much rape in anime? it sucks"
Please point to where I ever disagreed with those statements, and where I argued against them. If you're not actually reading what I'm writing, why would I care what you have to say? You seem to pride yourself on being some kind of intellectual debater or something from what I've seen in other comment sections, but the only one you're actually debating with is your own inflated ego and lack of reading comprehension skills.
Frankly, I don't even see the point in arguing further, so I think I'm just gonna go relax and close off nyaa for the rest of the day. Again, enjoy your MTL subs, and enjoying what biting the hand that feeds you brought upon you people.
Well, if you're not disagreeing, then why come here with the pìty shows about people being mean biting the hands that feeds them and treating subbers like shit just because I point out how doing subs would be a better way to fight the MTL than just complaining here? And that the MTL is born from lack of action?
Like, it looks to me you're upset because people are posting things you don't like. If I was "nicer" and didn't make my posts,. would you or any of the legit fansubbers change their opinions on the show and sub it? I don't think so, so I don't see how this is a result of me "biting the hand that feeds me" rather than the show only being interesting to an small amount of people (and sadly subbers aren't in said group)
Came for the shit subs, stayed for the shit slinging.
With Sony controlling a majority of anime streaming and Netflix slowly gaining traction, Disney also wants in on that money and will make exclusivity deals. They are going to do this more and more, so many of you might as well build that bridge right now and get over it.
LightArrowsEXE: "I'm gonna close off nyaa for rest of the day"
Also LightArrowsEXE: Edits his messages for nth time
Jokes aside, I just wanted to say three things:
Kaleido-subs WILL sub Kaleido Star.
I didn’t say people MUST sub a show they aren’t interested in. I said bitching here is not the way to fight agsinst MTL and that the lack of action from legit subbers leads to this, so they don’t have any right to bitch about the consequences of their (lack of) actions
It’s the same song and dance everytime a show in Netflix (and now Disney) jail doesn’t get legit subs. I fail to understsnd why people don’t expect MTLs at this point. Just ignore the MTL and move on. You aren’t convincing anyone to not use it by bitching.
Except that, from what i see above, the only subber that bitched about this particular MTL was herkz. (idk if xDark is subber too) But I do agree that people should expect MTL in case of jailed series and shouldn't complain when someone does upload MTL.
On that note, to all those who upload MTL, mark those releases as MTL properly to avoid confusion. And to all those who dislike MTL, we get it, you dislike MTL, now move on.
Just a few words....MTL are almost shit, but use of MTL as a base, according the story and a lot of well known japanese word aren't so bad. Using only MTL, i would like to forget.I did it a few times, but i not blindly write down, i watched thorough the whole episode, so i never wrote for a sister"him" and never wrote imouto as big sis.....MTL could help as a dictionary TC&QC does not have any means if the result are a piece of shit.
ps:original subs (cr or netflix) sometimes are so bad as an MTL
ps+: i do not really speak english and japanese, just after 20 years i got some knowledge.
having a show with MTL is unironically worse than not having any TL, because it means tons of people will actively ruin their experienec (which yes, a terrible MTL script will do). If you're this desperate nobody is stopping you and I get where you're coming from, but releases such as these are a net negative (oh, the amount of old shows jailed by ARR subs...). And it's not like you will never get any official translations for these shows either. Thinking that MTL immediately takes the place of things without translations is absolute nonsense. It's both ahistoric, as when official subs weren't a thing and some stuff just didn't get picked up in a season, or when stuff was stalled, and it is wrong even today with the hundreds, if not thousands, of old anime without any translation (or attempts thereof) into the english language. With its immediacy, its an entirely seasonals-only phenomenon. People could just watch some backlog shows while they wait or anything else, really.
Though if anything it just goes to show that for how much pirates that don't sub love to shit on officials, they depend on it and are unable to do anything worthwhile on their own.
Edit: @martinxk That's complete nonsense. I just QCed a script that was based on MTL yesterday and it took me 4 hours and over 100 correction notes for one episode. Starting with MTL usually takes more time than doing things from scratch and also produces much worse results. Anyone competent and not wholly desperate will not work on an MTL base. Which applies to literally no one for anything that's a seasonal. Official translations are lightyears ahead of any MTL.
Sounds like you're a subber. Your rant ain't gonna convince anyone. Doing subs would. So, y'know. Stop complaining about the result of your own lack of action. And no, I don't want to wait for what might be dubtitles, if SW Visisions is any precedent for how Disney will operate (i mean, it's shit now vs shit in the future from Disney). Empty promises of "better subs are coming" help no one and will make no one stop watching the MTL, So,. less ranting more subbing or simply ignore it
I didn't intend to convince anyone, I just corrected wrong assumptions made and rambled on for a bit. I'm not complaining about MTL existing, I'm just saying that they are a net negative (not immediately, just over a longer period of time). Dubtitles are terrible but would in fact be preferable over MTL. If you actually read what I said, I never told people what they "ought" to do, I just offered alternatives like the endless shows around with competent subs that most likely haven't seen, and just waiting for this one. Which they would obviously only do if they care, which if they don't they have already watched this anyway.
This is entirely correct, and also applies to any potential fansubbing projects. And it's entirely tangential to what I'm saying anyhow. Also if I could just decide to sub a show myself I absolutely would, but I'm not a one-man team and cannot do all the jobs necessary on my own. There are other projects and obligations I have, and if I could just snap a finger and make projects happen there would be a lot less untranslated 80s OVAs by now. Alas, I cannot. Asking this is on the same level of idiocy as people telling others to "just learn japanese".
I'm not even sure why I'm responding to you. It's clear that you're not even trying to understand what I was saying and just talking to yourself. Would probably have been a better use of my time to write this on the walls in a bathroom stall than to try to reason with someone this thickheaded.
me and the homies not reading any of this shit
@Tsukudakobashi
I faced a lot of shit or worse TL. On my own language, tl-ed from english (second hand tl) it took me a whole week to check the english and the hungarian and the story itself. It is a pain in the ass, but the translator almost corrected the subs (Irregular at magic highschool) Simply who just translate the text, should be banned. Every episodes have a context, if noone watched it while translating it just a waste of time. I watched and edited simultaneously.
Do you remember Mushashin? At last he tried to do with mtl something good.It wasn't so bad. Now i just running my mouth, bcs i never dl-ed this file, just about the principles...
Ps: once, in the past i posted a sub, which was MTL based, not my work, i just corrected it, while i watched the anime. It was not perfect, bcs i not really speak english, just pretend. My version was almost acceptable, but i got some critics from the sysad, i must mark my post as a macine translated garbage. thx. 3 days work gone waste, bcs i named the source. C est la vie
No offense, but your grasp of both the source and target language is so subpar I don't really care about your opinion on whether MTL is passable or a sufficient base.
imagine malding over a shitshow like this.
based spurdo
Can't wait people realize that Summertimme will have the same problem lmao
The thing with @Sinnx3 wich generated so much controverse is (i think at less) he used the MTL and posted the subs just like that. Upon doing a QC he should notice the subs was garbage and dont have any sense. I dont know how to rip anything nor know any japanesse, as much i know some english to be able to watch anime with english subs so i cant complain to much, but uploading something wich dont make any sense and pretend people to be thankfull should prohibited
Summerime seems to be more appealing production wise and has a bigger audience expecting it that aren't a few weirdos like me, so with some luck it can catch the interest of legit subbers
Seeing as a Nyaa admin will show up here eventually...
Why is that my Profile Pic (Gravatar) still doesn't work years later?
I forgot somethig important.... Even if it personally translated, if the trannslator did not know his/her own native language, when the TL worse thana MTL why this discussion ? I have some examples, original CR sub: The sentence is a question: "I can read it?" I understood, bcs my language work this way, but in english, i guess it should be "can i read it?" so when you englishmen or us people did not use your own language as it supposed , do not comply about mtl
God is real and hates this comment section.
Everyone is in their rights to critique subbing like any other creation, doesn't mean they have an obligation to fix it. This is such an outdated, tired debate.
Is it really right when these subs are the result of desperation because the very same people criticising don't take action?. It's the consequence of their actions. It's like an elite chef screaming at poor people to get some taste and stop eating cheap "shitty" food, but refusing to cook for them, he just screams that they should know better
why are shitters always mad at being called worthless